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> <channel><title>Comments on: Rent or Sell? The Optimal Decision for Homeowners Turned Vagabonds</title> <atom:link href="http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/</link> <description>Planning, preparing and packing for a round-the-world trip</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:21:55 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: Mary</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-2182</link> <dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 21:15:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-2182</guid> <description>How do we find opportunities? We want to stay in Toronto against the trend when Snowbirds go south for just shy of 6 months and are willing to pay for the covering cost i.e taxes for that peirod and and utilities and house sit for those TO folks. Can have a cat or a dog to care for. We want to sell our house in Toronto, buy a lakefront down where we grew up SW ontario and call that our primary dwelling and stay there when we aren&#039;t housesitting in TO. Reason: medical facilities for a health condition of my 59 year old husband. not messy, just need to get treatments every so often and we want to keep our TO health care professionals.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> How do we find opportunities? We want to stay in Toronto against the trend when Snowbirds go south for just shy of 6 months and are willing to pay for the covering cost i.e taxes for that peirod and and utilities and house sit for those TO folks. Can have a cat or a dog to care for. We want to sell our house in Toronto, buy a lakefront down where we grew up SW ontario and call that our primary dwelling and stay there when we aren&#8217;t housesitting in TO. Reason: medical facilities for a health condition of my 59 year old husband. not messy, just need to get treatments every so often and we want to keep our TO health care professionals.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Josh</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-1766</link> <dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:15:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-1766</guid> <description>Being priced out of the market is a reality for renters, not just buyers, in major cities. I was tempted to hold onto my apartment in NYC because I&#039;m sure the rental market will have gone up exponentially when I return. Ultimately, I decided that the hassle of subletting wasn&#039;t worth the effort.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Being priced out of the market is a reality for renters, not just buyers, in major cities. I was tempted to hold onto my apartment in NYC because I&#8217;m sure the rental market will have gone up exponentially when I return. Ultimately, I decided that the hassle of subletting wasn&#8217;t worth the effort.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Admin @ Peg Perego Infant Car Seat</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-1330</link> <dc:creator>Admin @ Peg Perego Infant Car Seat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:22:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-1330</guid> <description>On the flip side of renting or selling your stuff (including housing), there&#039;s also the issue of what you rent versus buy for, or during, your trip...
There are certainly some things that make sense to rent while travelling (a car, for example, assuming you will not be using one extensively - in that case, consider buying one).  However, some things you simply dont leave to chance that you are getting what you need, and that is safe and sound.
I do know people who have travelled with small children and rented items along the way, like strollers and high-chairs, booster seats, things of that nature.  Just keep in mind, especially when travelling to less developed countries, that their standards (and frankly, the level of honesty with regard to giving you what they say they are) can be very different.
Items that are key to yours and your chilren&#039;s safety really need to be investigated carefully.  In some countries, you will not be required to have an infant car seat, but that doesnt mean you shouldn&#039;t.  Also, note that the standards by which car seats (and other safety items) are judged can be much less rigorous than in N. America...
If you do plan on spending a significant amount of time behind the wheel while travelling, make sure you research the standards/ratings required in the country you&#039;re travelling too.  Personally, if I&#039;m travelling to a less developed country with my children and plan on driving, I&#039;m either bringing my car seat(s) with me, or I&#039;m doing some major research to buy a good one whilst there.  It DOES suck lugging around a car seat, but, then again, buying a new one while travelling (and not be confident of its quality/safety), sucks a lot more!
If you can manage it, just bring yours with you (of course, that assumes you like and trust the one you have)!  If you&#039;re not sure the one you have now is what you need, then take the time and research and buy a new one BEFORE YOU GO.  It will make your travels less stressful, and will be something you can use with confidence when you return!
Good luck and safe travels!!!
Carrick</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> On the flip side of renting or selling your stuff (including housing), there&#8217;s also the issue of what you rent versus buy for, or during, your trip&#8230;</p><p>There are certainly some things that make sense to rent while travelling (a car, for example, assuming you will not be using one extensively &#8211; in that case, consider buying one).  However, some things you simply dont leave to chance that you are getting what you need, and that is safe and sound.</p><p>I do know people who have travelled with small children and rented items along the way, like strollers and high-chairs, booster seats, things of that nature.  Just keep in mind, especially when travelling to less developed countries, that their standards (and frankly, the level of honesty with regard to giving you what they say they are) can be very different.</p><p>Items that are key to yours and your chilren&#8217;s safety really need to be investigated carefully.  In some countries, you will not be required to have an infant car seat, but that doesnt mean you shouldn&#8217;t.  Also, note that the standards by which car seats (and other safety items) are judged can be much less rigorous than in N. America&#8230;</p><p>If you do plan on spending a significant amount of time behind the wheel while travelling, make sure you research the standards/ratings required in the country you&#8217;re travelling too.  Personally, if I&#8217;m travelling to a less developed country with my children and plan on driving, I&#8217;m either bringing my car seat(s) with me, or I&#8217;m doing some major research to buy a good one whilst there.  It DOES suck lugging around a car seat, but, then again, buying a new one while travelling (and not be confident of its quality/safety), sucks a lot more!</p><p>If you can manage it, just bring yours with you (of course, that assumes you like and trust the one you have)!  If you&#8217;re not sure the one you have now is what you need, then take the time and research and buy a new one BEFORE YOU GO.  It will make your travels less stressful, and will be something you can use with confidence when you return!</p><p>Good luck and safe travels!!!<br
/> Carrick</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Abigail</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-1273</link> <dc:creator>Abigail</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:11:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-1273</guid> <description>Had exactly this debate with my husband before we went round the world in 2008.  In the end, we decided to rent the house out, but we were realistic - we didn&#039;t expect any income once we&#039;d paid a managing agent and covered the mortgage, we just wanted to keep the house.  A tip I was given by someone who owns several rental properties - budget for rental income 10 months out of every 12.  If you can cover all your costs with 10 months&#039; rent a year, it&#039;s feasible. If you do keep a tenant for 12 months or more, you have extra cash for maintenance etc.
We returned to the UK in January 2008, but we chose to keep our house rented out and rented an apartment for us instead.  It&#039;s cheaper and, after living out of a rucksack for a year, it felt spacious enough!  I doubt we&#039;ll ever live in our house again - we&#039;re heading off again in April this year - but we know it&#039;s there for capital or a roof over our heads if we need it in years to come.  And meantime, someone else is paying our mortgage - hurrah!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Had exactly this debate with my husband before we went round the world in 2008.  In the end, we decided to rent the house out, but we were realistic &#8211; we didn&#8217;t expect any income once we&#8217;d paid a managing agent and covered the mortgage, we just wanted to keep the house.  A tip I was given by someone who owns several rental properties &#8211; budget for rental income 10 months out of every 12.  If you can cover all your costs with 10 months&#8217; rent a year, it&#8217;s feasible. If you do keep a tenant for 12 months or more, you have extra cash for maintenance etc.</p><p>We returned to the UK in January 2008, but we chose to keep our house rented out and rented an apartment for us instead.  It&#8217;s cheaper and, after living out of a rucksack for a year, it felt spacious enough!  I doubt we&#8217;ll ever live in our house again &#8211; we&#8217;re heading off again in April this year &#8211; but we know it&#8217;s there for capital or a roof over our heads if we need it in years to come.  And meantime, someone else is paying our mortgage &#8211; hurrah!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bethany</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-1233</link> <dc:creator>Bethany</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:24:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-1233</guid> <description>This is a great post. Strangely I am struggling with the opposite problem. I&#039;m about to go traveling and after years of saving and getting ready for my non-committal, free spirit travel life I am seriously considering buying a house now. Really it&#039;s because of all the reasons you noted above - the market is great, I can get an 8k IRS tax refund for buying before April and the market is great now. If I wait until after I travel it will be hard to qualify because of income and all my saved money will be spent and I won&#039;t get a refund. It&#039;s so tough being on the brink of 2 such huge life changing things! Anyway I&#039;ve been nosing around your blog and it&#039;s great. I found it through theplanetd.com and I&#039;m going to add you to my blog roll. Good luck with the savings!  - Beth</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> This is a great post. Strangely I am struggling with the opposite problem. I&#8217;m about to go traveling and after years of saving and getting ready for my non-committal, free spirit travel life I am seriously considering buying a house now. Really it&#8217;s because of all the reasons you noted above &#8211; the market is great, I can get an 8k IRS tax refund for buying before April and the market is great now. If I wait until after I travel it will be hard to qualify because of income and all my saved money will be spent and I won&#8217;t get a refund. It&#8217;s so tough being on the brink of 2 such huge life changing things! Anyway I&#8217;ve been nosing around your blog and it&#8217;s great. I found it through theplanetd.com and I&#8217;m going to add you to my blog roll. Good luck with the savings!  &#8211; Beth</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stop Having a Boring Life</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-986</link> <dc:creator>Stop Having a Boring Life</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:48:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-986</guid> <description>Depends how free you want to be. If you truly want to leave and never have to come back unless you want to and want the option of staying away as long as you wish with no worries. Sell it.
If you aren&#039;t quite ready to let everything go, keep it. Flip side is, imagine being on a beach in Bali and having some BS go wrong with your house, or tenants you need to evict or ... etc etc...
Another thing is, if I decide to live somewhere when I get there, I can do it, no worries no attachment.
For me the decision was simple, sold it along with all the furniture, no regrets.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Depends how free you want to be. If you truly want to leave and never have to come back unless you want to and want the option of staying away as long as you wish with no worries. Sell it.</p><p>If you aren&#8217;t quite ready to let everything go, keep it. Flip side is, imagine being on a beach in Bali and having some BS go wrong with your house, or tenants you need to evict or &#8230; etc etc&#8230;</p><p>Another thing is, if I decide to live somewhere when I get there, I can do it, no worries no attachment.</p><p>For me the decision was simple, sold it along with all the furniture, no regrets.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KewlGadget</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-978</link> <dc:creator>KewlGadget</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:14:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-978</guid> <description>It seems that the economy is having a bigger impact on this situation than any. It seems that this is totally a buyers market at the time, so your asking price would have to be decreased, but usually when that happens it makes it easier to seel. I am hearing that it is the worst of both worlds. You have to drop your price to get a bite, but cannot sell because the general consumer has a very weakened buying power. Maybe the answer is to rent until the economy comes back a little.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> It seems that the economy is having a bigger impact on this situation than any. It seems that this is totally a buyers market at the time, so your asking price would have to be decreased, but usually when that happens it makes it easier to seel. I am hearing that it is the worst of both worlds. You have to drop your price to get a bite, but cannot sell because the general consumer has a very weakened buying power. Maybe the answer is to rent until the economy comes back a little.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-968</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:17:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-968</guid> <description>Agreed, Ben. If we were to rent, that is one of the reasons why we would consider a property management company, one which might periodically perform inspections of the house, both inside and outside. This ensures that your property is being properly cared for and that the tenants are adhering to the terms of the lease.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Agreed, Ben. If we were to rent, that is one of the reasons why we would consider a property management company, one which might periodically perform inspections of the house, both inside and outside. This ensures that your property is being properly cared for and that the tenants are adhering to the terms of the lease.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ben</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-964</link> <dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:14:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-964</guid> <description>I&#039;m so glad that rental rates are coming down.  Renting out your home is hard.  Unless you find close friends or relatives to rent to, I wouldn&#039;t do it.  People trash your place.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> I&#8217;m so glad that rental rates are coming down.  Renting out your home is hard.  Unless you find close friends or relatives to rent to, I wouldn&#8217;t do it.  People trash your place.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tango Lucy</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-950</link> <dc:creator>Tango Lucy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:43:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-950</guid> <description>Its interesting because many people are choosing to rent instead of sell in this economy, and that is driving down the rental rates! Also more people are downsizing and living together with roommates, so this is also adding to the vacancies in the market, especially one bedrooms. If you are planning on renting, keep in mind that you may have to accept less than what you originally thought you could get, and it may take longer than usual to find a tenant. At least these are my experiences in Los Angeles.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Its interesting because many people are choosing to rent instead of sell in this economy, and that is driving down the rental rates! Also more people are downsizing and living together with roommates, so this is also adding to the vacancies in the market, especially one bedrooms. If you are planning on renting, keep in mind that you may have to accept less than what you originally thought you could get, and it may take longer than usual to find a tenant. At least these are my experiences in Los Angeles.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: carmel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-947</link> <dc:creator>carmel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:34:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-947</guid> <description>House prices have plummeted here I am putting off any travel until I can get a decent rent for my house.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> House prices have plummeted here I am putting off any travel until I can get a decent rent for my house.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Johnny</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-937</link> <dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:53:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-937</guid> <description>It&#039;s so hard nowadays because selling in this economy is not an option yet keeping up the mortgage payments is a disaster without renting.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> It&#8217;s so hard nowadays because selling in this economy is not an option yet keeping up the mortgage payments is a disaster without renting.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Neil</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-843</link> <dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:35:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-843</guid> <description>If you meet the following 3 criteria, I renting out the house is undoubtedly the right choice:
1 - You continue to believe that owning is better than renting...you don&#039;t want to become a renter after your return.
2 - You are intending to resettle in the same town or city after your trip.
3 - You are happy with your current home.
Unless &quot;long term&quot; means more than two years, you&#039;ll likely find that the transaction costs of selling and rebuying a home in the same area exceed the savings realised by selling in the house for the trip.  But if you want to move, it&#039;s as good a time as any.
There is of course, the 4th criteria - you can take your trip without tapping into your home equity (or tapping more than you&#039;re willing to tap as a loan).
My wife sold her condo before we did our big trip (this was before we were married, and I was not a homeowner at the time).  It was the only way we could both go, but in retrospect it probably cost about $60 or $80k as the housing market exploded during the time we were gone, and during they year we spent saving up our down payment.  I don&#039;t regret it, as the trip was an amazing experience, at the right time, and worth every penny including the housing loss.
But if I could do a trip without selling my home, that would definitely be my preference.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> If you meet the following 3 criteria, I renting out the house is undoubtedly the right choice:<br
/> 1 &#8211; You continue to believe that owning is better than renting&#8230;you don&#8217;t want to become a renter after your return.<br
/> 2 &#8211; You are intending to resettle in the same town or city after your trip.<br
/> 3 &#8211; You are happy with your current home.</p><p>Unless &#8220;long term&#8221; means more than two years, you&#8217;ll likely find that the transaction costs of selling and rebuying a home in the same area exceed the savings realised by selling in the house for the trip.  But if you want to move, it&#8217;s as good a time as any.</p><p>There is of course, the 4th criteria &#8211; you can take your trip without tapping into your home equity (or tapping more than you&#8217;re willing to tap as a loan).</p><p>My wife sold her condo before we did our big trip (this was before we were married, and I was not a homeowner at the time).  It was the only way we could both go, but in retrospect it probably cost about $60 or $80k as the housing market exploded during the time we were gone, and during they year we spent saving up our down payment.  I don&#8217;t regret it, as the trip was an amazing experience, at the right time, and worth every penny including the housing loss.</p><p>But if I could do a trip without selling my home, that would definitely be my preference.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lindsey</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-782</link> <dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:25:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-782</guid> <description>My husband and I are going through the same thing.  The economy is depressing, but we&#039;re determined not to let a piece of real estate slow us down.  We&#039;re in the process of budgeting for an around the world trip, and it looks like we are going to rent our place out.   Since the economy is so bad, we have to make even the rental price appealing.
We are budgeting for our trip using worst case scenarios.  In order to pay for the mortgage, property tax, Homeowner&#039;s Association fees, homeowner&#039;s insurance, and a small amount of extra money that can be used for maintenance...we will need about $1,000 per month.  If we can get our place to be rented for $650, we will need to dedicate $350 to offset the extra costs.  $650 is a pretty safe renal rate as places comparable to ours are renting for more like $750 - $800.  Therefore, the higher we can rent our property for, the better off we will be.  In addition, we intend to offer a furnished rate if the renter wants to take it.  I think it would be a small fee...perhaps $50-$60 each month.  We&#039;re hoping someone takes this offer because it will prevent us from getting a huge storage unit, which would cost more money.
All in all, we hope this works.  I enjoyed this post.  This is the first time I&#039;ve been to your site.  I think I&#039;ll give you guys some linkage!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> My husband and I are going through the same thing.  The economy is depressing, but we&#8217;re determined not to let a piece of real estate slow us down.  We&#8217;re in the process of budgeting for an around the world trip, and it looks like we are going to rent our place out.   Since the economy is so bad, we have to make even the rental price appealing.</p><p>We are budgeting for our trip using worst case scenarios.  In order to pay for the mortgage, property tax, Homeowner&#8217;s Association fees, homeowner&#8217;s insurance, and a small amount of extra money that can be used for maintenance&#8230;we will need about $1,000 per month.  If we can get our place to be rented for $650, we will need to dedicate $350 to offset the extra costs.  $650 is a pretty safe renal rate as places comparable to ours are renting for more like $750 &#8211; $800.  Therefore, the higher we can rent our property for, the better off we will be.  In addition, we intend to offer a furnished rate if the renter wants to take it.  I think it would be a small fee&#8230;perhaps $50-$60 each month.  We&#8217;re hoping someone takes this offer because it will prevent us from getting a huge storage unit, which would cost more money.</p><p>All in all, we hope this works.  I enjoyed this post.  This is the first time I&#8217;ve been to your site.  I think I&#8217;ll give you guys some linkage!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jen Laceda</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-746</link> <dc:creator>Jen Laceda</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:00:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-746</guid> <description>This is a tricky one. I guess, you&#039;ll get more of a sense when it&#039;s closer to 2011? I mean, timing is certainly not everything, but it is a big chunk of the pie. Let me know what decision you come to. Also, maybe keep at the back of your mind, that many people set out to travel for a year...and decide not to return to their home / live somewhere else in the world. Could you see this happening to you? Maybe that beach bungalow in Bali, or that stone cottage in Umbria, or a cattle ranch outside of Buenos Aires is calling...just teasing!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> This is a tricky one. I guess, you&#8217;ll get more of a sense when it&#8217;s closer to 2011? I mean, timing is certainly not everything, but it is a big chunk of the pie. Let me know what decision you come to. Also, maybe keep at the back of your mind, that many people set out to travel for a year&#8230;and decide not to return to their home / live somewhere else in the world. Could you see this happening to you? Maybe that beach bungalow in Bali, or that stone cottage in Umbria, or a cattle ranch outside of Buenos Aires is calling&#8230;just teasing!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: soultravelers3</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-742</link> <dc:creator>soultravelers3</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:07:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-742</guid> <description>This is indeed, a very critical decision and I wrote about it in a post about how to do extended travel:
http://soultravelers3.com/2008/06/how-to-do-exten.html
&quot;Housing tends to go in cycles. Look closely to see if the trend is going up or down. If the trend is at the beginning of a downward spiral or at the peak after a long booming market as it was for us, it is far wiser to sell when it is easiest to do it and at the best price. We know other around-the-world families who missed this and some are still having a hard time selling at a much lower price. If the trend is at the beginning of a major upswing, after being down for a long time, it is often wiser to rent out one&#039;s house.&quot;
I&#039;m not sure where you live, but I think everyone must re-frame/re-think their false assumption that &quot;homes always go up&quot; or that owning a home is an investment.
If you do not own your home..ie paid in full...it is a liability, NOT an asset. You are renting it really from a bank.
Everyone should read Yale prof Schiller&#039;s post &amp; chart on what housing has done in the last 100 years to get a more accurate assessment.NYT has more info on it tracing it even much further back in the Netherlands.
I personally do not think it is a good time to own a home &amp; we are so very happy that we sold ours in 2005, at the top of the market, before we left on our open ended world tour. Many thought we were crazy to do it, but time has proven it to be a wise choice.
Of course, if you are sure you are only traveling for a year,that will impact your choice. Might you add on time? The travel lifestyle will change you mightily &amp; that will also impact.
We were very attached to our dream home that we put a ton of work into, but have not missed it at all &amp; not having to worry about it has given us much more freedom in our travels.
Recently I posted a good article on twitter showing that housing will continue to fall in many areas for 25/30 years!
You might also want to read some of the links I left in one of my first posts in 2006 on our blog, called &quot;Timing is Everything&quot;.
If you think out of the box for travel, remember to do it in other areas.
HTH Good luck!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> This is indeed, a very critical decision and I wrote about it in a post about how to do extended travel:</p><p><a
href="http://soultravelers3.com/2008/06/how-to-do-exten.html">http://soultravelers3.com/2008/06/how-to-do-exten.html</a></p><p>&#8220;Housing tends to go in cycles. Look closely to see if the trend is going up or down. If the trend is at the beginning of a downward spiral or at the peak after a long booming market as it was for us, it is far wiser to sell when it is easiest to do it and at the best price. We know other around-the-world families who missed this and some are still having a hard time selling at a much lower price. If the trend is at the beginning of a major upswing, after being down for a long time, it is often wiser to rent out one&#8217;s house.&#8221;</p><p>I&#8217;m not sure where you live, but I think everyone must re-frame/re-think their false assumption that &#8220;homes always go up&#8221; or that owning a home is an investment.</p><p>If you do not own your home..ie paid in full&#8230;it is a liability, NOT an asset. You are renting it really from a bank.</p><p>Everyone should read Yale prof Schiller&#8217;s post &amp; chart on what housing has done in the last 100 years to get a more accurate assessment.NYT has more info on it tracing it even much further back in the Netherlands.</p><p>I personally do not think it is a good time to own a home &amp; we are so very happy that we sold ours in 2005, at the top of the market, before we left on our open ended world tour. Many thought we were crazy to do it, but time has proven it to be a wise choice.</p><p>Of course, if you are sure you are only traveling for a year,that will impact your choice. Might you add on time? The travel lifestyle will change you mightily &amp; that will also impact.</p><p>We were very attached to our dream home that we put a ton of work into, but have not missed it at all &amp; not having to worry about it has given us much more freedom in our travels.</p><p>Recently I posted a good article on twitter showing that housing will continue to fall in many areas for 25/30 years!</p><p>You might also want to read some of the links I left in one of my first posts in 2006 on our blog, called &#8220;Timing is Everything&#8221;.</p><p>If you think out of the box for travel, remember to do it in other areas.</p><p>HTH Good luck!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Bardos - JetSetCitizen</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-741</link> <dc:creator>John Bardos - JetSetCitizen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:04:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-741</guid> <description>I am going through this exact debate now. I have a house in Japan and my wife and I are uncertain what to do with it.
Selling doesn&#039;t seem to make much sense because we wouldn&#039;t get much for it with the slow appreciation in Japan.
Mortgage rates are less than 2% so a high percentage of our payments are going towards paying off the principal. That makes it a decent long term investment
Renting out in Japan is probably a lot less risky than other countries, but we are not sure if we need to have a home base or not. It sure would be nice to have a comfortable place to return to, but we are not sure if it is worth the expense at this time.
Maybe we should house swap? Are you interested in coming to Japan for a couple of months? It would be great to swap houses with a small group of nomadic people around the world that we could trust.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> I am going through this exact debate now. I have a house in Japan and my wife and I are uncertain what to do with it.</p><p>Selling doesn&#8217;t seem to make much sense because we wouldn&#8217;t get much for it with the slow appreciation in Japan.</p><p>Mortgage rates are less than 2% so a high percentage of our payments are going towards paying off the principal. That makes it a decent long term investment</p><p>Renting out in Japan is probably a lot less risky than other countries, but we are not sure if we need to have a home base or not. It sure would be nice to have a comfortable place to return to, but we are not sure if it is worth the expense at this time.</p><p>Maybe we should house swap? Are you interested in coming to Japan for a couple of months? It would be great to swap houses with a small group of nomadic people around the world that we could trust.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: morriswt</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-739</link> <dc:creator>morriswt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:02:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-739</guid> <description>Dan,
Interesting post...
Let me first say that I do not own a house and will not own a house in the very near future. I actually considered buying a house to take advantage of a tax credit in the US but ended up deciding not to buy a property.
I&#039;d be interested in what you consider maintenance costs. I&#039;d say take that number and multiply it by at least 1.5 or 2. Alot of unexpected things can happen to a house. Additionally, even if your house sits empty, you still need to maintain it for it to keep its value.
Sounds like you are lucky to have a property and not be upside down on the loan. I&#039;d personally consider selling it. I would not consider doing long term travel while owning a property no matter how much I trusted the tenants or property management company or whatever arrangement I could setup.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Dan,<br
/> Interesting post&#8230;<br
/> Let me first say that I do not own a house and will not own a house in the very near future. I actually considered buying a house to take advantage of a tax credit in the US but ended up deciding not to buy a property.</p><p>I&#8217;d be interested in what you consider maintenance costs. I&#8217;d say take that number and multiply it by at least 1.5 or 2. Alot of unexpected things can happen to a house. Additionally, even if your house sits empty, you still need to maintain it for it to keep its value.</p><p>Sounds like you are lucky to have a property and not be upside down on the loan. I&#8217;d personally consider selling it. I would not consider doing long term travel while owning a property no matter how much I trusted the tenants or property management company or whatever arrangement I could setup.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mina</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-738</link> <dc:creator>mina</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-738</guid> <description>This was such a difficult decision for us. Renting seemed like it could be a lucrative possibility. However, after speaking to several property management companies, we realized that there are many downsides to renting and depending on the type of tenants that you get it could become more of a burden than an investment. Even a &#039;perfect&#039; tenant can become a nightmare due to divorce, job loss etc... If you are not in the same city and need to hire a property manager it would need to be someone you could really trust and have a good professional working relationship with. Alex &amp; I felt that our travels could be more carefree and relaxed if we didn&#039;t have to worry about the responsibilities that come with home-ownership. The reduced interest we will earn on the money in the bank as opposed to an appreciating real estate asset was a major consideration but I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll regret our decision. Hope that helps!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> This was such a difficult decision for us. Renting seemed like it could be a lucrative possibility. However, after speaking to several property management companies, we realized that there are many downsides to renting and depending on the type of tenants that you get it could become more of a burden than an investment. Even a &#8216;perfect&#8217; tenant can become a nightmare due to divorce, job loss etc&#8230; If you are not in the same city and need to hire a property manager it would need to be someone you could really trust and have a good professional working relationship with. Alex &amp; I felt that our travels could be more carefree and relaxed if we didn&#8217;t have to worry about the responsibilities that come with home-ownership. The reduced interest we will earn on the money in the bank as opposed to an appreciating real estate asset was a major consideration but I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll regret our decision. Hope that helps!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shannon OD</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/10/05/rent-or-sell-the-optimal-decision-for-homeowners-turned-vagabonds/comment-page-1/#comment-737</link> <dc:creator>Shannon OD</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:01:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=1151#comment-737</guid> <description>I agree with Amy, the market right now might just dictate your decision. You certainly aren&#039;t going to get the highest possible value out of the house if you sell now. But at the same time, it will definitely be an additional stresser to have to manage and keep track of renting it out while you&#039;re traveling.
Since you&#039;re going for a year, I say it would likely be better for you to keep it and rent it out then go through the whole sale process only to turn around and face it again right when you get back.  :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> I agree with Amy, the market right now might just dictate your decision. You certainly aren&#8217;t going to get the highest possible value out of the house if you sell now. But at the same time, it will definitely be an additional stresser to have to manage and keep track of renting it out while you&#8217;re traveling.</p><p>Since you&#8217;re going for a year, I say it would likely be better for you to keep it and rent it out then go through the whole sale process only to turn around and face it again right when you get back. <img
src='http://www.twortw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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