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/> [...] continue reading, please visit the TwoRTW blog.    Posted in Featured Posts  Tags: travel, TwoRTW  &laquo; Il Campo di Fiori Volunteering for [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don Nadeau</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-1393</link> <dc:creator>Don Nadeau</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:52:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-1393</guid> <description>I agree with Akila about being careful about where you eat.
In South Africa, with its population enjoying a national health care scheme, with its safe town and city water sources, etc., you can eat just about anything, including salads, anywhere.
India, as Akila mentioned, is another story. If only the very poorest people dine at a place, you may be wise to avoid it.
Unfortunately in striving for an &#039;authentic&#039; experience, some western travelers insist on always saving the maximum amount, and they get sick.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> I agree with Akila about being careful about where you eat.</p><p>In South Africa, with its population enjoying a national health care scheme, with its safe town and city water sources, etc., you can eat just about anything, including salads, anywhere.</p><p>India, as Akila mentioned, is another story. If only the very poorest people dine at a place, you may be wise to avoid it.</p><p>Unfortunately in striving for an &#8216;authentic&#8217; experience, some western travelers insist on always saving the maximum amount, and they get sick.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:30:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-292</guid> <description>Hi David. Thanks for the comment! I hope that you didn&#039;t read any anti-western sentiment into the above post; that wasn&#039;t the intention. It&#039;s all about context — a McDonald&#039;s restaurant located on Khao Sarn Road is quite a bit different than one located elsewhere in Bangkok, or Shanghai for that matter. In my mind, the post was more about the definition of space than it was about anything else. It just happens that a lot of western restaurants tend to congeal around the main tourist arteries—and that&#039;s what shapes interactions. That was my original intent with the post.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Hi David. Thanks for the comment! I hope that you didn&#8217;t read any anti-western sentiment into the above post; that wasn&#8217;t the intention. It&#8217;s all about context — a McDonald&#8217;s restaurant located on Khao Sarn Road is quite a bit different than one located elsewhere in Bangkok, or Shanghai for that matter. In my mind, the post was more about the definition of space than it was about anything else. It just happens that a lot of western restaurants tend to congeal around the main tourist arteries—and that&#8217;s what shapes interactions. That was my original intent with the post.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-291</link> <dc:creator>David</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:50:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-291</guid> <description>I hate to tell you this, but many &quot;locals&quot; eat at places like MacDonalds. I went to one in Shanghai when I was craving some French fries. I met some cool Shanghai natives who ended up taking me to some underground clubs. It was wild. I know it&#039;s correct to disregard anything &quot;Western&quot; when traveling abroad. But the locals--especially the ones who can speak English--often don&#039;t share that disregard.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> I hate to tell you this, but many &#8220;locals&#8221; eat at places like MacDonalds. I went to one in Shanghai when I was craving some French fries. I met some cool Shanghai natives who ended up taking me to some underground clubs. It was wild. I know it&#8217;s correct to disregard anything &#8220;Western&#8221; when traveling abroad. But the locals&#8211;especially the ones who can speak English&#8211;often don&#8217;t share that disregard.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-249</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:32:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-249</guid> <description>In full agreement, Andy. And I stay on Khao Sarn every time I&#039;m in Bangkok. That&#039;s the irony in a way—these places are popular because they often are fun! Tourist areas are touristy because they are worth visiting.
I try to not make much of the traveler/tourist distinction, as I really believe they are similar—if not the same. But I try to be cognizant of the walls that the travel industry puts up in order to keep me in a certain area and slowly chip away at my travel funds!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> In full agreement, Andy. And I stay on Khao Sarn every time I&#8217;m in Bangkok. That&#8217;s the irony in a way—these places are popular because they often are fun! Tourist areas are touristy because they are worth visiting.</p><p>I try to not make much of the traveler/tourist distinction, as I really believe they are similar—if not the same. But I try to be cognizant of the walls that the travel industry puts up in order to keep me in a certain area and slowly chip away at my travel funds!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andy Geoghegan</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-244</link> <dc:creator>Andy Geoghegan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:23:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-244</guid> <description>A nice, thoroughly-researched piece!
So what is a &#039;tourist&#039;?
I take your point that by sitting on the kerb drinking out of buckets on Khao San Road for a week doesn&#039;t give you the best idea of what Bangkok is really like however it&#039;s still a fun place to spend a few hours of an evening exchanging stories and tips (like many travel bloggers do via their laptops).  I agree that the point scoring that goes on can be tiresome but I am sure we are all guilty of doing this whether it&#039;s in a hostel or back home when somebody brings up the subject of a particular destination.
If a person claims to have got more out of a trip simply because they avoided so-called &#039;tourist&#039; areas sounds just as much as point scoring as the person in the hostel counting the number of countries they have been to.
You would clearly be a fool to avoid all of the popular tourist destinations as you would miss out on the Grand Palace in Bangkok or Tower Bridge in London.  Similarly, claiming to live like a local when travelling is all well and good but you would obviously draw the line at experiencing life as a local in the terrorist-rich areas of southern Thailand and parts of India.
I&#039;m a firm believer that you get out of travel what you put in and the important thing is to be yourself and come back with no regrets.  The things you chose to do or not do should and the reasons behind it should be personal choice; One man&#039;s dream is another man&#039;s nightmare.
A &#039;tourist&#039; is simply one who travels for pleasure.  It&#039;s a bubble I&#039;m happy to be in!
Andy
PS - great tip about taking photos &amp; props.  Always a brilliant ice-breaker when meeting people.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> A nice, thoroughly-researched piece!</p><p>So what is a &#8216;tourist&#8217;?</p><p>I take your point that by sitting on the kerb drinking out of buckets on Khao San Road for a week doesn&#8217;t give you the best idea of what Bangkok is really like however it&#8217;s still a fun place to spend a few hours of an evening exchanging stories and tips (like many travel bloggers do via their laptops).  I agree that the point scoring that goes on can be tiresome but I am sure we are all guilty of doing this whether it&#8217;s in a hostel or back home when somebody brings up the subject of a particular destination.</p><p>If a person claims to have got more out of a trip simply because they avoided so-called &#8216;tourist&#8217; areas sounds just as much as point scoring as the person in the hostel counting the number of countries they have been to.</p><p>You would clearly be a fool to avoid all of the popular tourist destinations as you would miss out on the Grand Palace in Bangkok or Tower Bridge in London.  Similarly, claiming to live like a local when travelling is all well and good but you would obviously draw the line at experiencing life as a local in the terrorist-rich areas of southern Thailand and parts of India.</p><p>I&#8217;m a firm believer that you get out of travel what you put in and the important thing is to be yourself and come back with no regrets.  The things you chose to do or not do should and the reasons behind it should be personal choice; One man&#8217;s dream is another man&#8217;s nightmare.</p><p>A &#8216;tourist&#8217; is simply one who travels for pleasure.  It&#8217;s a bubble I&#8217;m happy to be in!</p><p>Andy</p><p>PS &#8211; great tip about taking photos &amp; props.  Always a brilliant ice-breaker when meeting people.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tammie Dooley</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-234</link> <dc:creator>Tammie Dooley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:07:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-234</guid> <description>Hmmm.. the tourist bubble. I&#039;ve yet to be caught in this state of oblivion (unless it was my quest to be - and yes, there have been those DAYS, if not those TRIPS). I enjoy traveling alone, and not seeking out others traveling alone, because it causes me to shed all self-consciousness. I&#039;m braver, more forward in meeting people, love taking meals alone and then interacting with the waitstaff or the chef or the table next to me. Stretching my comfort zone limbers my spirit. Self reliance makes me vibrant! I try to travel slow and not cover too much ground. And I try to learn the highlights from the guidebooks, but then go/do/see as much by accident as I can. And when I don&#039;t travel alone? The same applies. My partner is equally laid-back!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Hmmm.. the tourist bubble. I&#8217;ve yet to be caught in this state of oblivion (unless it was my quest to be &#8211; and yes, there have been those DAYS, if not those TRIPS). I enjoy traveling alone, and not seeking out others traveling alone, because it causes me to shed all self-consciousness. I&#8217;m braver, more forward in meeting people, love taking meals alone and then interacting with the waitstaff or the chef or the table next to me. Stretching my comfort zone limbers my spirit. Self reliance makes me vibrant! I try to travel slow and not cover too much ground. And I try to learn the highlights from the guidebooks, but then go/do/see as much by accident as I can. And when I don&#8217;t travel alone? The same applies. My partner is equally laid-back!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anil</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-224</link> <dc:creator>Anil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:06:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-224</guid> <description>This was a great post. I&#039;d say that it&#039;s important not to be too self-conscious and just put yourself out there by eating locally, and the other tips you mention. Lots of travelers worry about &#039;looking stupid&#039; or not being cool or whatever and it really limits your experiences.
I try to be observant as well with the little things that I find different. How do people walk, what mannerisms do they use, etc. Watching others (and not yourself the entire time) is a great way to learn and blend in.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> This was a great post. I&#8217;d say that it&#8217;s important not to be too self-conscious and just put yourself out there by eating locally, and the other tips you mention. Lots of travelers worry about &#8216;looking stupid&#8217; or not being cool or whatever and it really limits your experiences.</p><p>I try to be observant as well with the little things that I find different. How do people walk, what mannerisms do they use, etc. Watching others (and not yourself the entire time) is a great way to learn and blend in.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Akila</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-220</link> <dc:creator>Akila</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:58:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-220</guid> <description>Well, you know what my solution is going to be given the theme of our site --- but I completely agree about eating local.  The easiest and fastest way to meet locals is to ask them where they suggest we eat.  Food (and, to a lesser extent, drink) is the great equalizer: we all must eat to survive and nearly all of us appreciate food.
I am wary of eating at roadside stands because I have gotten sick too many times in India; instead, we seek out the &quot;fast food&quot; options of the specific country.  In Venice, for example, we went to the bacari --- bars that serve cichetti (or Italian tapas) for 1 Euro per serving --- and found ourselves in the back corners of Venice, hanging out with soccer playing kids and wrinkled old men.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Well, you know what my solution is going to be given the theme of our site &#8212; but I completely agree about eating local.  The easiest and fastest way to meet locals is to ask them where they suggest we eat.  Food (and, to a lesser extent, drink) is the great equalizer: we all must eat to survive and nearly all of us appreciate food.</p><p>I am wary of eating at roadside stands because I have gotten sick too many times in India; instead, we seek out the &#8220;fast food&#8221; options of the specific country.  In Venice, for example, we went to the bacari &#8212; bars that serve cichetti (or Italian tapas) for 1 Euro per serving &#8212; and found ourselves in the back corners of Venice, hanging out with soccer playing kids and wrinkled old men.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-218</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:43:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-218</guid> <description>Thanks for the comment, Keith. Public transport is key. It&#039;s often not the easiest path, but it certainly can be the most educational!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Thanks for the comment, Keith. Public transport is key. It&#8217;s often not the easiest path, but it certainly can be the most educational!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-217</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:42:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-217</guid> <description>In full agreement with you. We found that some of the best interactions that we had while traveling through China (and India) were found in trains—travelling hard seat. Sure, you might arrive less than well rested, but the experience is worth the loss of sleep! Met a lot of people travelling third-class through the subcontinent, too.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> In full agreement with you. We found that some of the best interactions that we had while traveling through China (and India) were found in trains—travelling hard seat. Sure, you might arrive less than well rested, but the experience is worth the loss of sleep! Met a lot of people travelling third-class through the subcontinent, too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-216</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:40:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-216</guid> <description>Cool, Jason. In doing a bit of research today, we&#039;ve been overwhelmed at the number of hospitality organizations. And find that they comprise networks that transcend general interest and cater specifically to women, teachers, and the gay and lesbian community. There&#039;s lots out there!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Cool, Jason. In doing a bit of research today, we&#8217;ve been overwhelmed at the number of hospitality organizations. And find that they comprise networks that transcend general interest and cater specifically to women, teachers, and the gay and lesbian community. There&#8217;s lots out there!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:38:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-215</guid> <description>Thanks, Alexandra. As a couple, the social aspect is what we&#039;re most interested in. The difficulty arises as travelers because we are so transient by nature. Dinner exchanges are a great idea, and we&#039;ve been putting together a post for tomorrow on other hospitality exchanges; so if you happen to know of any that we should check out in advance of tomorrow&#039;s posting, let us know!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Thanks, Alexandra. As a couple, the social aspect is what we&#8217;re most interested in. The difficulty arises as travelers because we are so transient by nature. Dinner exchanges are a great idea, and we&#8217;ve been putting together a post for tomorrow on other hospitality exchanges; so if you happen to know of any that we should check out in advance of tomorrow&#8217;s posting, let us know!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link> <dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:38:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-213</guid> <description>Thank you for this excellent, well-articulated article. I like mixing with both locals and fellow travellers but I usually make my own plans and go my own way, instead of hanging out with fellow travellers (though I do occasionally enjoy it). Indeed, one great way of breaking the tourist bubble is to walk (as Vera recommends) or taking public transport. If I&#039;m staying in a certain place for a while, I tend to return to the same restaurants and bars and after a while, contact is established with the locals who frequent the same places or who work there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Thank you for this excellent, well-articulated article. I like mixing with both locals and fellow travellers but I usually make my own plans and go my own way, instead of hanging out with fellow travellers (though I do occasionally enjoy it). Indeed, one great way of breaking the tourist bubble is to walk (as Vera recommends) or taking public transport. If I&#8217;m staying in a certain place for a while, I tend to return to the same restaurants and bars and after a while, contact is established with the locals who frequent the same places or who work there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Vera Marie Badertscher</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-212</link> <dc:creator>Vera Marie Badertscher</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:12:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-212</guid> <description>Thanks for an excellent and thoughtful piece.
One of the best ways I have found to break the tourist bubble is by traveling the way they travel. (This may be obvious to backpackers, but other tourists forget.) Forgo the sightseeing lecture with lame jokes on the tour bus and take the local. Ride the train instead of renting a car. WALK!
Another way is to avoid the restaurants mentioned in any guidebook--by the time you get there thousands of others have read about it and hundreds have found it (Seemingly on the day you get there). Instead, look for where the locals are eating.  As a matter of fact, we find restaurants that way in the United States when we are on road trips--look for the place with the most cars around it with local licenses.
In non-English speaking lands, we avoid restaurants with English language menus.(Traveling with a tiny menu translator book--there are plenty of them--certainly helps.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Thanks for an excellent and thoughtful piece.</p><p>One of the best ways I have found to break the tourist bubble is by traveling the way they travel. (This may be obvious to backpackers, but other tourists forget.) Forgo the sightseeing lecture with lame jokes on the tour bus and take the local. Ride the train instead of renting a car. WALK!</p><p>Another way is to avoid the restaurants mentioned in any guidebook&#8211;by the time you get there thousands of others have read about it and hundreds have found it (Seemingly on the day you get there). Instead, look for where the locals are eating.  As a matter of fact, we find restaurants that way in the United States when we are on road trips&#8211;look for the place with the most cars around it with local licenses.<br
/> In non-English speaking lands, we avoid restaurants with English language menus.(Traveling with a tiny menu translator book&#8211;there are plenty of them&#8211;certainly helps.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link> <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:54:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-211</guid> <description>This is an excellent article highlighting the most rewarding aspect of travel, experiences of meeting different people from different cultures.  As you point out, it&#039;s easier to remain in the tourist bubble, but it won&#039;t be as much fun.  We expect Couchsurfing to be our key to unlock that door.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> This is an excellent article highlighting the most rewarding aspect of travel, experiences of meeting different people from different cultures.  As you point out, it&#8217;s easier to remain in the tourist bubble, but it won&#8217;t be as much fun.  We expect Couchsurfing to be our key to unlock that door.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alexandra</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/27/how-to-burst-the-tourist-bubble/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link> <dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:17:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=595#comment-210</guid> <description>Very interesting article, especially because of the theoretical base.
One possible way to &quot;burst the tourist bubble&quot; is to try to arrange for dinner at the house of locals. This can be set up via various websites that do dinner exchanges, or by simply socializing with locals when you&#039;re at your destination, and hoping they will take you home.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Very interesting article, especially because of the theoretical base.<br
/> One possible way to &#8220;burst the tourist bubble&#8221; is to try to arrange for dinner at the house of locals. This can be set up via various websites that do dinner exchanges, or by simply socializing with locals when you&#8217;re at your destination, and hoping they will take you home.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
