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> <channel><title>Comments on: Down and Out: Scammed in Ho Chi Minh City</title> <atom:link href="http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/</link> <description>Planning, preparing and packing for a round-the-world trip</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:10:28 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-2652</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:05:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-2652</guid> <description>Absolutely — Wes&#039;s blog is firmly entrenched in our feedreader!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Absolutely — Wes&#8217;s blog is firmly entrenched in our feedreader!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ayngelina</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-2651</link> <dc:creator>ayngelina</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:57:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-2651</guid> <description>Wow, it&#039;s interesting to hear stories about Asia from a man&#039;s perspective, I never encountered this as a woman. But then again I couldn&#039;t go on a bike alone, it wouldn&#039;t be safe.
Have you been reading Johnny Vagabond&#039;s blog? He seems to be having some of the same adventures.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Wow, it&#8217;s interesting to hear stories about Asia from a man&#8217;s perspective, I never encountered this as a woman. But then again I couldn&#8217;t go on a bike alone, it wouldn&#8217;t be safe.</p><p>Have you been reading Johnny Vagabond&#8217;s blog? He seems to be having some of the same adventures.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-2645</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:02:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-2645</guid> <description>No doubt — I take full responsibility for putting myself in this position! It shouldn&#039;t have happened. And despite it occurring, I&#039;m still really looking forward to returning to HCMC one day!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> No doubt — I take full responsibility for putting myself in this position! It shouldn&#8217;t have happened. And despite it occurring, I&#8217;m still really looking forward to returning to HCMC one day!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Expat in Vietnam</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-2580</link> <dc:creator>Expat in Vietnam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 23:19:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-2580</guid> <description>Interesting story.  As a westerner living here in Saigon, I would say just to be careful.  Luckily I have not had such a bad experience before.  I have found HCMC to be safe and fun.  Happy Travels</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Interesting story.  As a westerner living here in Saigon, I would say just to be careful.  Luckily I have not had such a bad experience before.  I have found HCMC to be safe and fun.  Happy Travels</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Down and out: scammed in Ho Chi Minh City &#124; Global Bloggers Network</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-1590</link> <dc:creator>Down and out: scammed in Ho Chi Minh City &#124; Global Bloggers Network</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:51:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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/> [...] continue reading, please visit the TwoRTW blog.    Posted in Featured Posts  Tags: travel, TwoRTW, Vietnam  &laquo; My Top 5 Adventure Trips [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Abigail</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-1271</link> <dc:creator>Abigail</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:38:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-1271</guid> <description>My best Vietnamese overcharge was in a small town in the hills near the Chinese border, north of Bac Ha.  We arrived at this market town, bought some fuel for the bike and walked through the market to get some pho.  At a typical soup place, we ordered two bowls in pidgin Vietnamese, and happily slurped away.  Whilst we were clearly providing entertainment and interest, the situation was very relaxed and full of smiles.
On asking for the bill, we heard the words for &#039;one&#039; and &#039;five&#039; and were pleasantly surprised that two bowls of pho were only 15,000 dong (about $US1), the price we&#039;d been paying for one bowl in Hanoi.  My husband got out a 50,000 dong note; the cafe owner took it but shook her head.  Thinking there was a problem with change, my husband opened his wallet to show he had nothing smaller.  The lady quickly removed the 100,000 dong note in there, and held up each note saying &#039;one&#039; and &#039;five&#039;.  150,000 dong (about $US10) was a chunk of our daily budget, and made for very expensive soup.  She quickly disappeared into the back, then rushed to the front and fanned the smoke of her cooking fire to try and stop us from speaking to her.  Her husband, sipping green tea in the corner, shrugged embarrassedly when we appealed to him.
At this point, the two Vietnamese phrases I had learnt before arriving came into good use:  &quot;oi-choy-oi&quot; (oh my god) and &quot;dat quoi&quot;(too expensive).  Repeated often and loudly, we began to draw a crowd.  Eventually, by standing in the cafe owner&#039;s way and moving so she couldn&#039;t walk around us, we encouraged her into a conversation - her shouting in Vietnamese and us asking for a refund in Vietnamese, English and international miming.  We were first offered the 50,000 dong note back, and then she finally threw the 100,000 dong note at us instead.
We hurriedly made our way back through the market and, grateful we&#039;d filled up before we went for lunch, hopped back on the bike and scarpered.  Within ten minutes, my indignation had melted into amusement, and we spent most of the journey back, through beautiful mountain passes and paddy fields, laughing our heads off.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> My best Vietnamese overcharge was in a small town in the hills near the Chinese border, north of Bac Ha.  We arrived at this market town, bought some fuel for the bike and walked through the market to get some pho.  At a typical soup place, we ordered two bowls in pidgin Vietnamese, and happily slurped away.  Whilst we were clearly providing entertainment and interest, the situation was very relaxed and full of smiles.</p><p>On asking for the bill, we heard the words for &#8216;one&#8217; and &#8216;five&#8217; and were pleasantly surprised that two bowls of pho were only 15,000 dong (about $US1), the price we&#8217;d been paying for one bowl in Hanoi.  My husband got out a 50,000 dong note; the cafe owner took it but shook her head.  Thinking there was a problem with change, my husband opened his wallet to show he had nothing smaller.  The lady quickly removed the 100,000 dong note in there, and held up each note saying &#8216;one&#8217; and &#8216;five&#8217;.  150,000 dong (about $US10) was a chunk of our daily budget, and made for very expensive soup.  She quickly disappeared into the back, then rushed to the front and fanned the smoke of her cooking fire to try and stop us from speaking to her.  Her husband, sipping green tea in the corner, shrugged embarrassedly when we appealed to him.</p><p>At this point, the two Vietnamese phrases I had learnt before arriving came into good use:  &#8220;oi-choy-oi&#8221; (oh my god) and &#8220;dat quoi&#8221;(too expensive).  Repeated often and loudly, we began to draw a crowd.  Eventually, by standing in the cafe owner&#8217;s way and moving so she couldn&#8217;t walk around us, we encouraged her into a conversation &#8211; her shouting in Vietnamese and us asking for a refund in Vietnamese, English and international miming.  We were first offered the 50,000 dong note back, and then she finally threw the 100,000 dong note at us instead.</p><p>We hurriedly made our way back through the market and, grateful we&#8217;d filled up before we went for lunch, hopped back on the bike and scarpered.  Within ten minutes, my indignation had melted into amusement, and we spent most of the journey back, through beautiful mountain passes and paddy fields, laughing our heads off.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:29:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-86</guid> <description>Good point, Thai.  Perhaps, it&#039;s a case, as Benjamin Disraeli put it, of having seen more than I remember, and having remembered more than I have seen. But if I recall, I found the fact that he was armed remarkable—and for some reason that he was military and not civilian. But this was back in 2002 and I can&#039;t recall. He could have been carrying a plastic whiffle bat—I had polished off far too many Heinekens. Thanks for the comment!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Good point, Thai.  Perhaps, it&#8217;s a case, as Benjamin Disraeli put it, of having seen more than I remember, and having remembered more than I have seen. But if I recall, I found the fact that he was armed remarkable—and for some reason that he was military and not civilian. But this was back in 2002 and I can&#8217;t recall. He could have been carrying a plastic whiffle bat—I had polished off far too many Heinekens. Thanks for the comment!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thai Pham</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link> <dc:creator>Thai Pham</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:58:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-85</guid> <description>While your description of your encounter is most certainly an all too common occurrence for tourists in Vietnam I do have one qualm about it... You mention banks being guarded by armed guards, however if the person you mentioned had a gun then it was most certainly a military guard of some kind, guns are banned for all civilians and most banks while having security guards can only brandish a club or other &quot;non-lethal&quot; weapon.  Perhaps the ATM you ran across was near one of the consulates in town, they always have armed guards outside.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> While your description of your encounter is most certainly an all too common occurrence for tourists in Vietnam I do have one qualm about it&#8230; You mention banks being guarded by armed guards, however if the person you mentioned had a gun then it was most certainly a military guard of some kind, guns are banned for all civilians and most banks while having security guards can only brandish a club or other &#8220;non-lethal&#8221; weapon.  Perhaps the ATM you ran across was near one of the consulates in town, they always have armed guards outside.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:13:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-70</guid> <description>All great suggestions, John. Appreciate the comment. It&#039;s important to make sure you work out your costs up-front. With the ubiquity of digital cams and mobile phones, taking a pic of the taxi number is a great idea! Easy to do and conveys your intent if provoked!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> All great suggestions, John. Appreciate the comment. It&#8217;s important to make sure you work out your costs up-front. With the ubiquity of digital cams and mobile phones, taking a pic of the taxi number is a great idea! Easy to do and conveys your intent if provoked!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:11:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-69</guid> <description>I miss Vietnam, too! The good and the bad. Well, mostly it was good. At least, I mostly remember just the good! I&#039;m looking forward to both Eastern and Western Europe, too. With the number of tourists they see on an annual basis, unscrupulous individuals have likely perfected the art of the scam!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> I miss Vietnam, too! The good and the bad. Well, mostly it was good. At least, I mostly remember just the good! I&#8217;m looking forward to both Eastern and Western Europe, too. With the number of tourists they see on an annual basis, unscrupulous individuals have likely perfected the art of the scam!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:08:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-68</guid> <description>Thanks, Mina. Appreciate the links to those posts. Yours is a great blog. Can&#039;t wait to hear about your wedding and then your travels! Having read about the places you&#039;ve been, you guys do a great job conveying a sense of place! Looking forward!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Thanks, Mina. Appreciate the links to those posts. Yours is a great blog. Can&#8217;t wait to hear about your wedding and then your travels! Having read about the places you&#8217;ve been, you guys do a great job conveying a sense of place! Looking forward!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:07:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-67</guid> <description>Thanks, Steven—I remember that crossing well. The atmosphere of the border at Nong Khai. Actually, I had written about that crossing the past. Five or six years ago, from my journal: &quot;There is something about it like a baptism. First, the exhilaration of passing through no-man&#039;s land, absolved of citizenship, neither resident nor tourist of any country. Then, your eyes beginning to open at Immigration like those of a new-born child awakened during the sacrament. Awakened, of course, not to the possibilities of new beginnings but to a glass half empty; a passport anointed with the ink of the entry permit. Finally, the passport officer handing you back your name and your face—your unfinished life.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Thanks, Steven—I remember that crossing well. The atmosphere of the border at Nong Khai. Actually, I had written about that crossing the past. Five or six years ago, from my journal: &#8220;There is something about it like a baptism. First, the exhilaration of passing through no-man&#8217;s land, absolved of citizenship, neither resident nor tourist of any country. Then, your eyes beginning to open at Immigration like those of a new-born child awakened during the sacrament. Awakened, of course, not to the possibilities of new beginnings but to a glass half empty; a passport anointed with the ink of the entry permit. Finally, the passport officer handing you back your name and your face—your unfinished life.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Bardos</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link> <dc:creator>John Bardos</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:27:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-66</guid> <description>Thanks for sharing your story.
It can be hard to avoid being scammed sometimes. I rarely trust anyone and try to avoid shady taxis and touts if possible.
In every country I go to, I always ask how much it is going to cost upfront and ask if there are any extra charges. There are often fake luggage, toll both and extra person charges, even in richer countries. In a strange country I always try to ask the information counter at the airport how much a taxi will cost. Then if the driver tells you it is going to be more, you know to try a different cab. Also, by showing that you know the real price, I feel the driver will probably think you have been to the country before and is less likely to try and rip you off.
Another tactic that worked on two occasions is to take a picture of the number on the taxi. Legitimate taxi companies can&#039;t afford to have government scrutiny of scams, so even just a picture can be enough to get the driver to comply.
The safest route is always public transportation though. It can also be more interesting. My wife usually walk everywhere in a new city just to get a better feel for everything. We only use a taxi if that is the only choice  from the airport.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Thanks for sharing your story.</p><p>It can be hard to avoid being scammed sometimes. I rarely trust anyone and try to avoid shady taxis and touts if possible.</p><p>In every country I go to, I always ask how much it is going to cost upfront and ask if there are any extra charges. There are often fake luggage, toll both and extra person charges, even in richer countries. In a strange country I always try to ask the information counter at the airport how much a taxi will cost. Then if the driver tells you it is going to be more, you know to try a different cab. Also, by showing that you know the real price, I feel the driver will probably think you have been to the country before and is less likely to try and rip you off.</p><p>Another tactic that worked on two occasions is to take a picture of the number on the taxi. Legitimate taxi companies can&#8217;t afford to have government scrutiny of scams, so even just a picture can be enough to get the driver to comply.</p><p>The safest route is always public transportation though. It can also be more interesting. My wife usually walk everywhere in a new city just to get a better feel for everything. We only use a taxi if that is the only choice  from the airport.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jen Laceda</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link> <dc:creator>Jen Laceda</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:44:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-64</guid> <description>My husband and I went to Hanoi in 2002. We exchanged $100 US at the airport and we got 1,000,000 dongs.It may even have been 1.5 million dongs. Anyway, we took the taxi from Noi Bai airport into the city centre, having negotiated a price we thought was fair and having indicated that tolls and taxes included. We were getting scammed just sitting in that taxi. Our driver stopped at imaginary toll booths to collect toll 3x during the entire ride. At one point, he was asking for 3,000 dongs then 40,000 dongs, then another 40,000 dongs!  We were handed this baloney piece of torn paper that had Vietnamese scribbles on it, which we felt was picked up from some garbage can. I was so upset. Then , our driver insisted on taking us to his friend&#039;s guesthouse and wouldn&#039;t take us to our hotel, even after we explicitly told him we had prior arrangements. When it was evident he wasn&#039;t going to take us to our hotel, we had to, literally, toss the fare at him and jump out of a moving cab to get away from this nightmare! God, I miss Vietnam!
Oh hey, we have more scam stories from Prague (scammed by train workers &amp; set up for robbery in the train) and from Barcelona (where I was robbed by a 5 year old gypsy!!). Oh yeah, I was detained in a Philippine airport because immigration officer claimed I had a criminal case (turns out to be just a similar name, but they asked for &#039;bail money&#039;). I said F-you and flicked them the birdie.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> My husband and I went to Hanoi in 2002. We exchanged $100 US at the airport and we got 1,000,000 dongs.It may even have been 1.5 million dongs. Anyway, we took the taxi from Noi Bai airport into the city centre, having negotiated a price we thought was fair and having indicated that tolls and taxes included. We were getting scammed just sitting in that taxi. Our driver stopped at imaginary toll booths to collect toll 3x during the entire ride. At one point, he was asking for 3,000 dongs then 40,000 dongs, then another 40,000 dongs!  We were handed this baloney piece of torn paper that had Vietnamese scribbles on it, which we felt was picked up from some garbage can. I was so upset. Then , our driver insisted on taking us to his friend&#8217;s guesthouse and wouldn&#8217;t take us to our hotel, even after we explicitly told him we had prior arrangements. When it was evident he wasn&#8217;t going to take us to our hotel, we had to, literally, toss the fare at him and jump out of a moving cab to get away from this nightmare! God, I miss Vietnam!<br
/> Oh hey, we have more scam stories from Prague (scammed by train workers &amp; set up for robbery in the train) and from Barcelona (where I was robbed by a 5 year old gypsy!!). Oh yeah, I was detained in a Philippine airport because immigration officer claimed I had a criminal case (turns out to be just a similar name, but they asked for &#8216;bail money&#8217;). I said F-you and flicked them the birdie.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mina</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link> <dc:creator>mina</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:32:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-62</guid> <description>Hey! I just tweeted or twitted (or whatever the kids call it these day) a link about some shadiness I experienced in Luxor -- here are some more: http://sendingpostcards.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/more-scams-from-luxor/   - although none of our experiences were nearly as terrifying as yours sounded. Good job avoiding what could have been a really bad situation.
Thanks for the links, I&#039;m sure they will prove to be useful.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> Hey! I just tweeted or twitted (or whatever the kids call it these day) a link about some shadiness I experienced in Luxor &#8212; here are some more: <a
href="http://sendingpostcards.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/more-scams-from-luxor/" rel="nofollow">http://sendingpostcards.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/more-scams-from-luxor/</a> &#8211; although none of our experiences were nearly as terrifying as yours sounded. Good job avoiding what could have been a really bad situation.</p><p>Thanks for the links, I&#8217;m sure they will prove to be useful.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steven Norwich</title><link>http://www.twortw.com/2009/07/09/down-and-out-scammed-in-ho-chi-minh-city/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link> <dc:creator>Steven Norwich</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:43:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twortw.com/?p=330#comment-61</guid> <description>I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve been scammed more times than I can count. However, the one time I realized I avoided being taken was also in Southeast Asia, at Nong Khai, just after you get through Laos immigration on the Laos side of the bridge. There I was approached by several people offering me a taxi to Nong Khai. They said it was a long way (it&#039;s not) and offer a price of 400Thb. This is a total rip-off as the journey is only about 2km. I avoided it by taking the 15Thb bus across the bridge and then hopping into a tuk-tuk after Thai immigration, out past the carpark (where there are more touts and scammers). Whole thing costs 40 or 50Thb. Not quite as interesting an experience, but worth sharing I guess.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br
/> I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve been scammed more times than I can count. However, the one time I realized I avoided being taken was also in Southeast Asia, at Nong Khai, just after you get through Laos immigration on the Laos side of the bridge. There I was approached by several people offering me a taxi to Nong Khai. They said it was a long way (it&#8217;s not) and offer a price of 400Thb. This is a total rip-off as the journey is only about 2km. I avoided it by taking the 15Thb bus across the bridge and then hopping into a tuk-tuk after Thai immigration, out past the carpark (where there are more touts and scammers). Whole thing costs 40 or 50Thb. Not quite as interesting an experience, but worth sharing I guess.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
